Pricey New Presidential Choppers Not Made in U.S.A. – Leak Gives Marine One Helicopter Details to Iran

President Barack Obama’s entreaties to “buy American” to improve the economy apparently doesn’t include the fleet of new Marine One helicopters he’ll soon be shuttled around in.

The Pentagon is spending $11.2 billion for 23 European-designed, British-built helicopters to replace the aging squadron of American aircraft used by American presidents for the past 30 years.

Critics of the presidential purchase claim the contract for the new Lockheed Martin “US101” variant of the Italian choppers violates a decades-old law that requires weapons systems and components used by the U.S. military to be made primarily in the United States.

President Herbert Hoover signed the act into law in 1933 to ensure the United States government would use American made products whenever possible. The law has largely been circumvented by so-called “Memorandums of Understanding” to waive implementation of the law until now, Carter said. Read More

Well so much for buy American made!

Leak Gives Marine One Helicopter Details to Iran

A file-sharing glitch reportedly has put engineering, cost and communications details about President Barack Obama’s Marine One helicopter in the hands of Tehran.

NBC affiliate WPXI in Pittsburgh reported Saturday that a Pennsylvania–based security company called Tiversa uncovered the classified information at an IP address in Iran’s capital city.

The CEO of Tiversa, Bob Boback told the TV station, “We found a file containing entire blueprints and avionics package for Marine One, which is the president’s helicopter.”

Tiversa consultant, retired General Wesley Clark advised that the company had located the individual computer and employee that left the information vulnerable.
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This government of ours isn’t doing such a great job now is it? I guess thats what Obama gets for mouthing back at John McCain last week about he didn’t need a new helicopter! Also people do you see by not buying America made we are losing jobs overseas?

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44 comments on “Pricey New Presidential Choppers Not Made in U.S.A. – Leak Gives Marine One Helicopter Details to Iran

  1. A buddy of mine works at HMX-1 in VA. I’ll have to send him an e-mail and see how works going…..Those Marines aren’t going to want to fly on European copters, they’ll do it because they have to, but they won’t like it. They’re regular birds are like the one in my pic, but A LOT nicer.

  2. And you really think that, after a whole month on the job, these new helicopters were ordered by the Obama administration? How utterly simplistic of you, if not downright disingenuous.

  3. The leaks to Iran was on the boy Obama’s watch! And Tiversa consultant, retired General Wesley Clark supports wet behind the ear boy Obama! Which is worst where the helecopters was build or leaking the secrets to Iran?

  4. Larrys,
    Bush had 8 years to get new copters, why would he get new ones for the new guy?

    rjjrdq-http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usmc/hmx-1.htm
    The main difference between the one in my pic and HMX-1 is the inside. They are the cadillac of helicopters. They have cosmetic differences, but if you google “CH-53” and “MH-53” you’ll see there really aren’t that many differences.

  5. Don’t be ridiculous. Neither Bush nor Obama ordered up these helicopters. The Marine Corps had to do the ordering, specs, etc.

    Are you silly enough to think the President – whoever it is – heads down to Copters R Us and kicks the skids on the latest models?

  6. You’re ridiculous larrys, it was the democrat control congress that ok the buying the helecopters from oversea! If I’m not completely out of my mind larrys, Obama was a Senator at the time….did he vote yea or nay or did he even have time out of his full time campaigning to care?

    Oh I forgot, the democrats don’t read the spending bills before they sign them!

  7. So you think the president has no say in his transportation? WOW! What rock do you live under? Pelosi picked herself a new plane, and she’s no president.

  8. Barack Boy is larrys ROCK! His Savior! What did you say helechick “what rock larrys live under” LOL

  9. Chick, you’re laughable. The Pentagon doesn’t go through an elaborate procurement process to purchase 23 helicopters totalling $11.2 billion in five weeks. IMPOSSIBLE. But you knew that, didn’t you? You just cannot resist ANY excuse for dumping on a President you cannot personally stand, can you?

    You’re not that hard to figure out, Chickie.

  10. I think that what larrys is really trying to get at here is that the automobile was an American invention.

    Also, if you look at a map and squint real hard, there are 57 states, if not more.

  11. From what larrys said this veteran learns that he does not know one thing about what the Pentagon does when it comes to buying military equipment. I guess he does not know that even a simple screwdriver that cost us $3.00 or so cost the Pentagon sometimes in the hunderds of dollars. Yes a simple screwdriver. Remember the toilet seat that cost hunderds of dollars a few years back. The reason is the Pentagon ask for not a regular screwdriver such as a standard 1/4 inch, but want it made into a faction of that so the manufactor has to revamp its equipment to make the screwdriver to the Pentagon’s specs, so the bid is higher. Before you say something larrys you should be sure you know what it is you’re saying…don’t be like your Boy Obama! The Democrat control Congress has to approve the budget for the Pentagon and the Obama boy has to sign it!

  12. larrys- The military has these things called contracts. Every couple years contracts come up for evaluation, in that time they discuss new items, replacements for current items, upgrades, etc. Do you know they’ve been trying to replace my helo since I came in the Navy in 96? The copters WERE in the works a long time ago, but all it takes is one word to get the go ahead. Bush didn’t give them the word because he wanted American helos. Do your research before you come at me.
    GTP,
    We’ve actually been in the process of switching all our tools over to snap-on, more cost effective since we break tools a lot and they replace them at a fraction of the cost, sometimes free. Another example of reviewing a contract, the company we were getting the tools from wasn’t willing to do for us what snap-on would. We still spend 100’s on screws and bolts(high temp, high torque).

  13. Yes there was alot of complaints about high cost tools as I was retiring and its nice to know that they are doing something different to save cost. Thanks helochick

  14. President Barack Obama’s entreaties to “buy American” to improve the economy apparently doesn’t include the fleet of new Marine One helicopters he’ll soon be shuttled around in.

    Critics of the presidential purchase claim the contract for the new Lockheed Martin “US101” variant of the Italian choppers violates a decades-old law that requires weapons systems and components used by the U.S. military to be made primarily in the United States.

    The Pentagon turned down Sikorsky Aircraft’s bid for an American made “Marine One” helicopter fleet despite strong lobbying from a powerful group of Republicans who wanted the new helicopter made by Sikorsky Aircraft in Connecticut.
    A violation occurs when total costs increase by more than 25 percent over original estimates. The price for violating the law is its immediate termination unless it is re-certified as a national security requirement by the Secretary of Defense, according to the exceptions written in the law.
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  15. “Bush didn’t give them the word because he wanted American helos. Do your research before you come at me.”

    Yeah, I did. Did you?

    “For Mr. Obama, the program is one more inheritance from the Bush administration, which began the effort after the Sept. 11 attacks generated concern about whether presidential helicopters from the 1970s were up to the challenge of terrorist threats. President George W. Bush spent Sept. 11 aboard Air Force One, reinforcing the need for up-to-date communications and security for a president at all times.”

    “Andrew H. Card Jr., Mr. Bush’s White House chief of staff, grew exasperated in 2002 by helicopter mechanical problems and instigated the development of an ultramodern replacement. The Pentagon awarded a contract in 2005 to Lockheed Martin, even though it had never built helicopters, reasoning that a three-engine model produced by its British-Italian partner, called the EH-101, provided a useful foundation. ”

    “In doing so, the Pentagon bypassed Sikorsky Aircraft, the contractor since the Eisenhower era. Representative Rosa DeLauro, a Democrat from Connecticut, where Sikorsky is based, said she believed the Bush administration wanted to reward Britain and Italy for support in Iraq. “I think this was a way of saying, ‘We understand what you did for us; now we’re trying to do something for you,’ ” she said.”

    “The Bush administration denied that. But as the White House tried to effectively replicate Air Force One in helicopter form, it soon became clear that modifying the EH-101 was much more complicated than anticipated. The new armored 64-foot-long presidential helicopter had to carry 14 passengers and thousands of pounds of secure communications equipment and be able to jam seeking devices, fend off missiles and resist some of the electromagnetic effects of a nuclear blast. ”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/us/politics/16chopper.html

    So what you got now, Chickie?

  16. [Republicans who wanted the new helicopter made by Sikorsky Aircraft in Connecticut. ]

    Now for your NY News, don’t make me laugh as the New York Times spins everything away from Obama onto the Republicans from the start of Obama’s first day of campaigning.

    [The price for violating the law is its immediate termination unless it is re-certified ]

    Someone had to re-certified the contract or Obama could have killed the contract like he has many other things that he did that President Bush signed into law!

    We keep hearing this inheritance, well the econmy isn’t getting any better larrys, matter of fact its much worst…most people were better off on 20 January than they are today 05 March! Its Obama’s government now, not President Bush! Look what BOY Obama will leave for the next President in 2012… This country will owe double what it did when Bush left office!

  17. Aren’t you just a bit optimistic?! He’s a 1 term president, take the next couple years to get used to that so when it happens you don’t go into shock. He’s now pi**ing off gun owners by trying to ban certain guns. Personally I’d think those are the last people he’d want to pi** off.

  18. Some democrats are now getting worried about how Obama is spending money that we don’t have! It will come down on Obama real hard if things don’t turn around very very soon! So hang onto your Obama hopes larrys you will need them to comfort you!

  19. “Personally I’d think those are the last people he’d want to pi** off.”

    Why is that, pray tell. Are you playing that ever-popular game (in redneck circles) of let’s-see-who-gets-to-shoot-the-black-Prezzident ?

    Sad sad sad

  20. It appears that the NRA has effectively stopped the unconstitutional DC voting rights act. There are plenty of congresspeople who don’t want to p*ss off gun owning voters.

    You must strive always not to be absurd, larrys.

  21. Maybe thats what larrys has running down his leg, he tried to p** off and couldn’t.

  22. My question remains: why would Chickie suggest that gun owners should be the last ones that Obama pisses off? We’re not talking about congresspersons, and the next congressional election is almost 2 years away. Please don’t play coy, and please quit answering for others. Chickie knows what she meant; although we can both guess, I don’t and you don’t.

  23. The NRA has more power than a senator larrys and with many thousands of Americans backing! Boy Obama will p** on larrys when the time comes he don’t need him anymore.

  24. That reminds me, larrys tried to compare ratings of President Bush and Obama Boy using Obama’s honeymoon beginning month to President Bush last month in office! What a laugh!

  25. “Why is that, pray tell. Are you playing that ever-popular game (in redneck circles) of let’s-see-who-gets-to-shoot-the-black-Prezzident ?”

    1. Not playing a game, there are some gunowners out there who think they’re Billy the Kid, if you don’t know that you’re an idiot. Have you been to TX? There are a lot of trigger happy gunowners, that in my eyes shouldn’t have guns.

    2. It doesn’t matter who you are, if you infringe on someone’s constitutional rights you’re going to make people mad. Look at what’s going on with his BC for crying out loud…STILL!

    3. He’s not black, he’s multi-racial. Stop calling him black.

    4. “rednecks” aren’t the only people who own guns, so stop stereotyping. They also aren’t the only ones who would go on a shooting spree. I believe the politicaly correct term would be Appalachian Americans. hehehehe

    http://viciousmomma.blogspot.com/2006/01/political-correctness-out-of-control.html

    He keeps pi**ing people off and he’s going to run out of votes for the next election. Which is fine for me, but there are how many millions of gun owners in America? How many of them do you think own semi-automatic guns? My brother I know has 3, 3 of my co-workers collect guns and have several in their arsonal. So no, I wasn’t suggesting that your president would get shot.

  26. Luke-
    I can’t believe they’re actually entertaining the idea of suspending her! I was on the drill team in school. I can’t imagine anyone being that ridiculous!! OMFG! What’s next?

  27. “He’s not black, he’s multi-racial. Stop calling him black.”

    If you want to get technical, one could make a plausible argument that nobody is “black” in the sense that almost all African Americans (if they could accurately trace their lineage) have some percentage of “white” ancestors.

    I’d refer to Obama as being “African American” but I’m afraid that would just encourage another lawsuit claiming Obama’s dual citizenship from one of the “birther” nutjobs.

  28. I’m talking about mother and father. I know this is a strecth for you, but stop arguing ridiculous points. I don’t care if you’re great great great grandmom had relations with a white man.

    I love that of all the crap I put in my last post, you zoned right in on the race thing, and it was the shortest statment. Guess you’re not hard to figure out…….

    sad sad sad

  29. Thats the way the liberals are helochick, they love to attack but they can not take the heat from their stupid attacks! Obama could not have used the Race Card if he had not called himself Black!

    Why not just call an American what he/she is “American”
    You don’t see White people walking around calling themselves “White American” or “English American”! We say we’re Americans but the Blacks can’t seem to be just plain true Americans can they?

  30. “You don’t see White people walking around calling themselves ‘White American’ ”

    Enough with the hypocrisy, goodtimepolitics. Who the heck do you think you’re kidding? You’ve often referred to yourself as a White American, and you loudly and repeatedly proclaim your White Pride. You post about state legislators in Georgia owing back taxes, and you pointedly note that three are Democrat AND black.

    Your words, not mine.

    Not for nothing, I happen to be white. It just offends me to hear racists pretend that they’re not racist. I don’t have to be black to feel that way. Lots of average Americans of every race are offended by racism like yours.

  31. Again larrys, I don’t walk around saying that I am white, I only say that to p** you the Obama lover off! Obama is more white than black stupid!

  32. larrys- You know, I’ve been posting on GTP’s pages for a while. I’ve never heard anything like you are accusing him of. I have to say, there’s racists, people who think they aren’t racist, people who call everyone else racist, then there’s people like you, people who’ve NEVER said a racist thing in their life.

  33. I sometimes call Boy Obama just that, and or say something like he’s not setting a good example for his people. But the main thing is I’m against Obama’s policies and his big lies, as he has lied to the American people every since he started running for president. You might also note that I hardly ever call him president. larrys don’t know what he’s talking about unless its to protect Obama no matter what the man does. I’m starting to wonder about larrys! Trying to play the race card is an Obama trick!

  34. goodtimepolitics, you are a lying sack of excrement. No other way to put it. You make racist comments, erase them when you’re called on it, and then erase the comment that makes note of what you did. You undoubtedly will do it again, I realize, but maybe this will somehow see the light of day before you delete it again.

    You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

    You wrote the comment 3 times on three different blogs, let me educate you larrys…you’re being moderated and will be banned from this blog if you keep your attacks up. Thats the nice thing about having your own blog by the way. I just ran a line thu it so that people can see what you’re really like.

  35. Oh and let me add, if you notice I have a source for most all my post. The black Ga. Reps that was caught not paying their taxes was listed by the Macon news. But I guess larrys thinks Fox News, and all the other sources that I list are also racist. Its just a race card play by larrys. I served in all the branches of the military except the marines and many of my best friends were blacks and we looked out for each others back. So to call me racist is off on left field which is where Obama and his supporters are!
    Now back to the helecopters that the government brought from overseas instead of America….don’t you think that is wrong when you’re saying buy American to the people and the government is not setting a good example? Obama tells the American people to do without while he lives high on the hog as he has done for years. These politicians do not know what poor is! Raising the capital gain tax will drive more companies and jobs overseas!

  36. I truely think larrys is a scared little man, who’s ashamed of his vote that he cast. So he’s taking it out on everyone else.

    sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad ass sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad

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