UPDATED 21 FEB @ 2PM – Reporter attack on President Barack Obama’s anti-foreclosure plan caught fire on the Internet on Thursday

UPDATED 21 FEB @ 2PM
Anti-Stimulus Protests Sprout Up, thanks to Amanda Grosserode with the help of Michelle Malkin (Breaking News)
Holding signs reading “Stimulate Business, Not Government,” “Families Against Porkulus” and “Say No To Generational Theft,” protesters opposed to the $787 billion stimulus package have been mobilizing across the country. Read Much More

UPDATE 21 FEB

Tea Party U.S.A.: The movement grows

Seattle on Monday. Denver on Tuesday. Mesa AZ on Wednesday. Overland Park, Kansas today. What a week, huh? We got the anti-stimulus, anti-entitlement protest ball rolling — and now the movement, spurred further by CNBC host Rick Santelli’s call for a “Chicago Tea Party,” is really taking off. Read More: Movement Grows

Come on Americans lets make our voice heard. We are just at the beginning of letting the Obama government know that WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A SAY!

The White House is lashing out publicly and personally at a CNBC reporter whose attack on President Barack Obama’s anti-foreclosure plan caught fire on the Internet on Thursday

CNBC hosts pressed Bernstein to explain why Obama’s plan calls for allowing borrowers to refinance loans even if they have less than 20% equity in their homes. “To refinance can save a family $4000, $5000, $6000 a year in an economy that’s been extremely tough,” Bernstein said.

“I don’t know that they deserve to refinance because those are the terms they signed up for in the first place,” CNBC’s Melissa Francis said.

“I think we perhaps have a very different perspective,” Bernstein allowed.

In a later segment, Santelli made clear he still wasn’t buying it.

“Pretty much everybody we know’s 401K is now a 201K. Why did that happen? Oh my God, nobody expected this housing crisis through no fault of our ownership of stock prices was decimated. Why is that any different than his explanation. We want our 401K money back. I want my stock money back,” Santelli said. “The retirement funds of many Americans [are] much larger of a loss than some people on their housing at this point in time.”
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Rebel Yell: Taxpayers Revolt Against Gimme-Mania
My syndicated column reports on the growing, grass-roots movement against porkulus/spending binges/the entitlement culture from Seattle to Denver to Mesa, Arizona and beyond. Why aren’t you hearing about it in the MSM? Because it doesn’t fit the victim mentality/government savior narrative. We don’t exist, remember? Read more at Michelle Malkin

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Obama thugs?, Thought police, Oklahoma City police officer, February 18, 2009, anti-President Barack Obama sign, Free speech threatened, Secret Service, FBI, First Amendment rights violated

An Oklahoma City police officer wrongly pulled over a man last week and confiscated an anti-President Barack Obama sign the man had on his vehicle.

The officer misinterpreted the sign as threatening, said Capt. Steve McCool, of the Oklahoma City Police Department, and took the sign, which read “Abort Obama, not the unborn.” Read More

America Waking UP ??

Obama is coming under fire from around the country about his housing bailout plans!

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30 comments on “UPDATED 21 FEB @ 2PM – Reporter attack on President Barack Obama’s anti-foreclosure plan caught fire on the Internet on Thursday

  1. Just what in heck do you want? What’s YOUR plan?

    Obama is wrong for bailing out Big Business.

    Obama is wrong for bailing out homeowners.

    Obama is wrong for creating a stimulus program that includes government spending.

    Bottom line, you think that everything Obama has done is wrong.

    So, Economic Geniuses and Political Gurus, just what would you suggest Obama do? What would be the solution to our country’s ecoomic crisis?

    Speak up. You may make headlines, because no right-wingers have stopped their criticism long enough to offer any alternative plans.

    Oh wait, I forgot. There has been one suggestion constantly advanced by the GOP: cut taxes to the upper income tax brackets. Yeah, that’s the ticket. “Trickle down” pretty much means peeing on the heads of those below.

  2. larrys: Just what in heck do you want?

    goodtimepolitics:Not what you want larrys, I sure didn’t want a big spending bill of 800 billion dollars that my children will have to pay back, I didn’t want a socialist country like you and your president Obama wants! Thats what I didn’t want larrys! There more I didn’t want but we will wait to another time to tell you the rest!

    Just can not stand it can you larrys? Obama is screwing up and you’re having to defend his inexperience! So now why don’t you stop making yourself look so bad trying to defend a man that just don’t have any idea of what to do about this meltdown!

  3. Once again, you’re real quick to say what you DON’T want, but you are clueless as to what you DO want.

    If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

    goodtimepolitics: Obama and the democrats help start the meltdown with forcing Fannie Mae and mac to give loans to people that could not afford to pay the loan back! So tell me who the problem was and is! Obama and the democrats larrys and you know it but do not want to amit you where wrong all this time, and keep defending your savior! The people in need isn’t get any help, they don’t have a job so they will not get a housing bailout! Tell me again larrys but then listen to what those people have to say about Obama and his spending bill. The wind is changing larrys and there isn’t anything you can do about it. We the people are starting to get our voice heard! Freedom of speech huh!

  4. You claim that Obama is “a man that just don’t [sic] have any idea of what to do about this meltdown.” Only a man that DOES have an idea of what to do about this meltdown has the right to say that. So tell us your ideas, please. We’re all waiting! Solve our economic crisis, O Great One!

    goodtimepolitics: Its all over the news that Obama’s spending bill will not work, dodn’t you ever listen to any news besides MSNBC? Its your Obama that thinks he is a savior and you agree with him that he can walk on water..I sure would not make myself look bad the way you’re doing to protect a lier! Thats right Obama is a worst lier than any president before him!

  5. For you larrys!

    Ike Morgan tells you what 700 Billion Dollars is!

    Stack all 700 billion dollars, one on top of the other, it will be 233,333,333 feet high. My trusty calculator then tells me that stack is actually about 44,000 miles high.

    700 billion dollar bills weigh 1,443,298,969 pounds.
    OK, all this measurement stuff is pretty boring. Let’s spend our 700 billion dollars. Good Luck.

    Twenty years sounds like enough time to spend it, right? Not so fast, chummy. To spend 700 billion dollars in 20 years means you would have to spend 35 billion dollars a year. Not impressed?

    OK, how about trying to spend $95,890,000 dollars a day for 20 years. Still not impressed? How about trying to spend $3,995,433 per hour for 20 years or how about $66,590 per minute for 20 years.
    Yep, that means every minute, of every hour, of every day for 20 years you would have to spend over sixty-six thousand dollars to equal 700 billion dollars.

    I have a new found respect for “700 billion dollars“.

    Obama should have alittle more respect for 700 billion like this high school math teacher Ike MorganRead more

  6. larrys, HERE’S the alternative fiscal package proposed by House Republicans at the end of January — dollar figure much lower and with a much heavier emphasis on tax reform. Had you honestly been unaware of this plan,it would have been understandable, as the plan, where it was addressed at all in the MSM, received no more than perfunctory coverage. (Are you aware of another instance in history of a free press voluntarily giving up its independence? Me neither.) Anyhow, there were plenty of dissenting voices during our rush to Porkulus — politicians, finance boffins, academic economists — and most of them had constructive suggestions, typically involving tax cuts or modest, more focused spending. Even those who really did counsel inaction were speaking from conviction; in the event, inaction would have been preferable, as we’ve ended up with a plan that, if it stimulates at all in the short run, still depresses in the long run. See the Congressional Budget Office report for the net negative effect of Porkulus on GDP growth.

    What passes for tax relief in Porkulus is nearly all in the form of one-time credits or refunds. As far as I’m aware, all relief for individuals and families — including the “Making Work Pay” provision (work not having paid prior to the ascension of the Obama) — is in the form of one-time gifts from our rulers. In “stimulative” effect, this kind of tax forgiveness is identical to deficit spending — in other words, weak. There is no evidence that stimulus packages, whether in the form of deficit spending, increased balanced-budget spending, one-time tax relief, or any combination of the above works very well. Bush’s schemes didn’t work in 2001 or 2008. The Ford administration’s scheme didn’t work back in the 70’s. And FDR didn’t get us out of the Depression. What does work is cutting tax rates, the centerpiece of the House R’s plan, and even then the cuts must be permanent or at least perceived as long term. Kennedy’s cuts worked in the 60’s. Reagan’s worked in the 80’s. And Dubya’s 2003 cuts worked. While there is endless debate on the size of the “multiplier,” the crucial Keynesian construct by which a dollar in government spending is alleged magically to raise national income by more that a dollar, I am aware of no debate on the effect of cutting tax rates on national income. You can debate the “fairness” of a rate regime; you can debate the appropriate size of government’s extorted slice of our national income; you can debate whether these tax cuts “pay for themselves”; but you can’t reasonably claim that, other things equal, reducing taxes on work and investment discourages work and investment.

    So, the verdict on Porkulus is that, in return for a doubtful short-term boost, we have incurred huge new debt, higher taxes, and likely long-term stagnation, when, by adopting, say, a package built around tax cuts, we could have had an immediate short-term boost, a smaller addition to our debt (or maybe even a smaller debt), and a healthier economy.

    But, of course, even had the Obama known squat about economics, he wouldn’t have cared. The point of Porkulus is to increase government power, including the power to tax, and to reward those who have shown a willingness to join the Obama in remaking America.

    Incidentally, whether we manage to avoid a really serious depression (and, pace Mrs. Pelosi, it ain’t that bad yet, historically) depends more on the prognosis for the financial sector than it does on Porkulus. You think climate science is screwed up? Try macroeconomics. The linkage between the “financial” economy and the “real” economy, despite all Keynesian/Monetarist claims to the contrary, is presently understood mainly in terms of faith-based theorizing. I’ll probably have more to say on this as accusations of being-the-problem-not-the-solution come over the transom. Ever consider, larry, that your behavior on this site exhibits “fear of the other”? Hater.

  7. The White House is lashing out publicly and personally at a CNBC reporter whose attack on President Barack Obama’s anti-foreclosure plan caught fire on the Internet on Thursday.

    Can you imagine how the press would have reacted had the Bush administration singled out an uppity news personality like this?

  8. goodtimepolitics, you’re all mouth and no brains. I haven’t defended Obama’s plan here, but I have acknowledged he is TRYING. I have asked you repeatedly what you would do differently, and all you offer is how Obama and the Democrats are bad.

    You have NO positive proposals of your own. because you don’t understand anything more complicated than “Democrat bad, Republican good.”

    The American people are hurting. Haniding us this claptrap that “just sit back and it’ll correct itself” is nonsensical. It was wrong when Hoover tried it in 1928-1932 and it’s wrong today. By doing nothing, all we do is support the status quo, where the haves have more, and the have nots have less. How come “fiscal conservatives” never decry THAT sort of wealth redistribution, when the rich get richer and the poor get poorer? George Bush and Company gave hundreds of billions to Wall Street and Big Banks, and NOW the CNBC no-mind starts screaming about “losers” who have a house with one too many bathrooms who can’t pay his mortgage?

    Wake up and smell the coffee. Your taxes aren’t going up, unless your income goes up. The ultra-rich who control our nation’s economy are trying to scare you into keeping a system that consistently screws you and benefits them. No, Robin Hood to the Nth degree is not the answer, but it’s way past time that those that have start supporting the system that made possible what they have.

  9. Larrys: How come “fiscal conservatives” never decry THAT sort of wealth redistribution, when the rich get richer and the poor get poorer?

    goodtimepolitics: Say what?
    Thanks to the stimulus bill Obama signed, Billionaire Paul Allen will be as much as a billion dollars richer.
    Your tax money at work in the form of the Obama (spending) stimulus bill.

    The republicans did come up with a true stimulus plan that would have started double the jobs of Obama plan without half the cost and the republicans plan would have cut taxes on the middle income. The republicans would not have turn around right after giving the big companies and big banks billons of dollars and raised taxes during a recession! Tax cuts is a proving way to come out of a recession and spending more has proven to fail. Obama is bankrupting The United States of America!
    You’re barking up the wrong tree larrys..making yourself look bad for a man that has the experience of a kid wet behind the ears and with a staff thats calling the American people cowards, which reminds me of Jeremiah Wright the chicken has come home to roost. So Obama the socialist far lefter is roosting in the White House!

  10. larry, larry, larry. You must strive at all times not to be absurd.

    Why haven’t you defended the Obama’s plans? If they’re bad enough, then “Let’s not do that” is a perfectly respectable POV, all by itself. The idea that he should get points for trying, when everything he tries is wrong-headed and destructive, doesn’t much appeal to reasonable people. Better he should stop trying. And, btw, “Democrats bad Republicans good” is a highly reliable rule of thumb on most policy questions.

    And, if you really want to learn about economically sturdier stimulus plans, then read the plan linked in my lengthy post above. The House R’s were on the right track with their tax cut proposals. Even before reading his last post, I assumed GTP would also favor tax cuts as a means to stimulate, if only because GTP and I agree on stuff 93.28% of the time. (I’m still a free trader, while I think GTP is a “Buy American” kinda guy.)

    Haniding us this claptrap that “just sit back and it’ll correct itself” is nonsensical. It was wrong when Hoover tried it in 1928-1932 and it’s wrong today.

    There is something to be said for a policy of inaction, but, if you think Hoover subscribed to laissez faire principles, you are sadly mistaken. HERE are some pertinent excerpts from a really excellent article on the Depression. Hoover, like contemporary progressives on both sides of the aisle, was a great one for regulation and activist fiscal policy. Roosevelt, despite his campaign pledges of restraint and retrenchment (he really is Obama’s model when it comes to lying), mostly followed trails blazed by Hoover, while spending more money and engineering more press applause. Both raised spending and taxes; both concocted reams of new regulation; both effectively aggravated and prolonged the Depression. FDR did trim tariffs — a good move — but the only other success I can think of, saving the banking system, followed a plan devised by Hoover’s Treasury Secretary, the implementation of which was delayed by the Dem Congress, at great cost to depositors, with the idea of giving FDR the credit on his assumption of power. Don’t feel bad. Hoover as do-nothing is part of the founding myth of modern American liberalism and is widely retailed in the government schools. Anyone remember diogenes, the history teacher? I’m sure he buys the New Deal myth, moron that he is.

    As for your soak-the-rich bias, I never got a job from a poor man. You seem to be a socialist, a spread-the-wealth kinda guy, a true believer in the sort of old-fashioned, envy-based economics of the Obama and his ideological pals. Personally, I’m still pretty sure that most Americans like the idea of industry, thrift, creativity, and risk-taking being rewarded instead of penalized. But you guys control the commanding heights at the moment, so you’ll probably get most of your program … and all the misery that it entails.

  11. Why is it that anyone who says the current system is malfunctioning is automatically labelled a “socialist”? I don’t think a system that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer — not based upoon their relative efforts, but almost solely upon their current socioeconomic condition — is fair by any means. I don’t think it’s a system we, as the richest nation on earth, should tolerate. If that makes me a socialist then yeah, I guess I am one. But I don’t think it does.

    The game is rigged, the deck is stacked, and the GOP is all about maintaining the status quo. How is that status quo working for you, goodtimepolitics?

    As for Hoover, yes, a Democratic Congress hindered Hoover when he tried some 11th hour moves in 1932 to try to get re-elected. But Hoover did nothing in 1928 and 1929 and 1930 and 1931. That’s unacceptable.

    And lukemcgook, it’s nice that you put words into the mouth of your confrere, goodtimepolitics. I was just trying to see if anything meaningful and positive would come out of his mouth, not yours. But now that we’ve clearly established that he’s Charlie McCarthy to your Edgar Bergen, we can move on.

    I’m tired and, much more importantly, most of America is tired, of Republicans lying through their teeth to try to score political points. All this nonsense about trains from LA to Vegas: they don’t exist. It’s a figment of a Republican imagination. The one thing that the GOP has done exceedingly well is maintain message discipline. One lies and the other swears to it. So the canards get repeated over and over and over again, and suddenly people start thinking they’re actually “facts” when they’re actually fiction. It’s just ike Ronald Reagan and his “welfare queens.” Nobody could ever actually find any such people, but it made for a great story and got people riled up. Riled up enough to believe that they had actually seen the welfare queens, even if they hadn’t.

  12. Why is it that anyone who says the current system is malfunctioning is automatically labelled a “socialist”?

    The current system is indeed malfunctioning, although you and I would disagree on just how it’s malfunctioning and why. I called you a socialist not because you’ve observed that the system is broken, but because you insist that the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer. The immiseration of the masses is socialist dogma, and it is not true; we’ve actually covered recent trends in income distribution here on this blog, a few weeks back. And even if it were true that the poor were getting poorer, this hypothetical fact, by itself, would not necessarily indicate a new program of punitive taxes on the rich.

    The top 10% of earners already pay 70% of income taxes and the bottom 50% pay less that 5%. If we’re to go back to the same well for more cash to cover our fresh deficits, we have to look at how rate increases will affect the behavior of that top 10%. The way you slice the pie determines the size of the pie, and the suggested narrowing of the “rich” slice will very likely result in a smaller, sadder pie for all. And we know how the Obama feels about pie!

    The game is rigged, the deck is stacked, and the GOP is all about maintaining the status quo.

    Let’s see. In the past few months, we’ve learned a great deal about how much easier it’s been for minority borrowers to buy houses they can’t afford. We’ve learned that powerful unions can dictate billions of dollars in doomed expenditure to Congress. We’ve learned that having friends on the banking committees of the House and Senate and in the Treasury Department is very important to Wall Street. We’ve learned how corrupt was the management of government-sponsored entities like Freddie and Fannie. We’ve learned how prominent government-connected Democrats don’t have to pay income taxes. We’ve learned that public sector employees have pension benefits that will very likely start bankrupting states very shortly. Most recently, we’ve learned that rewarding ideological soulmates, government clients, and silly technocrats is much more important than the nation’s well-being. We’ve learned many things about the system, none of them reflecting unfavorably on free market ideals, but all of them fairly described as “stacking the deck” in favor of the rent-seekers and state clients that are wrecking the nation.

    But Hoover did nothing in 1928 and 1929 and 1930 and 1931.

    Hoover wasn’t president in 1928. The Crash occurred in late 1929. Federal spending began a sharp rise, relatively and absolutely, in 1930. Smoot-Hawley was signed in 1930. Rexford Tugwell, braintruster nonpareil, is quoted in Reed’s article: “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.” Btw, why is doing nothing “unacceptable” (another of those words you hear only from leftrons, like “inappropriate”). Free market capitalism has been the greatest engine of enrichment in history. And, to quote an eminent economist, Kenneth Minogue, “capitalism is what people do if you leave them alone.”

    You’re all messed up. And I don’t put words in GTP’s mouth. If I did, we wouldn’t disagree 6.72% of the time.

  13. Another word or two coming direct from my mouth larrys is that I was here saying the same things way before lukemcgook joined into the conversations here on the blog. Just goes to show your judgement of me is totally nonsense! You need to wake-up to the fact that you have a hot something running up your legs for your confessed savior Barack Hussein Obama.

  14. in the 80s the left berated the right for the ‘so-called’ welfare queen argument.

    well, Nadya Suleman has just proved them wrong. they do exist. (the octomom)

    goodtimepolitics: All I can say is “The Obama left media NBC” 🙂

    DID the NBC network pay Octomom Nadya Suleman close to $1 million for coverage of the maniacal mother and her eight preemie babies? NBC vehemently denies it. But an insider told us, “Everything was filmed. The birth, everything. Then [Suleman’s people] said negotiations would start at $1.2 million for the video and pictures, which is when producers from Oprah Winfrey, ABC and CBS left the room. NBC stayed.” Our source suspects that NBC made a “donation” through an intermediary. Suleman gave Ann Curry the interview, in which she said a lonely childhood made her want to birth 14 kids with a sperm donor.
    Read more here

  15. Still waiting on those positive suggested changes to save us, goodtimepolitics. We get it: you don’t like Obama. At all.

    Now try something positive and constructive.

  16. And yes, lukemcgook: let;’s just sit back and do nothing. Let unfettered free market capitalism fix itself. It’s not like the crisis we’re suffering through now are self-inflicted wounds.

  17. larrys: Still waiting on those positive suggested changes to save us, goodtimepolitics. We get it: you don’t like Obama. At all.

    goodtimepolitics: Well larrys its like this we are waiting for your answer to why Obama don’t want to release his birth cert and what dark secret you think he is keeping from the American people!

    You do have one thing right, yes I said one thing…I do not like liers or thiefs which Obama is both!

    Cut Capital Gain Tax in HALF and give each tax paying AMERICAN CITIZEN $3,000.00, cut taxes on middle income workers! Give Government guarateed Low interest loans to people that are trying to start small businesses!

  18. Not bad, GTP.

    The capital gains tax is unjust (double taxation) and causes a number of inefficiencies. Abolishing it would be a good Heimlich maneuver for the stock market.

    I doubt a one-time $3000 for every taxpayer would have much of a stimulative effect, but at least it would cost less than Porkulus, and whatever effect it did have would be fast.

    Cutting tax rates for middle income households, or for any bracket, would definitely stimulate.

    Guaranteeing loans to small businesses is something the feds already do. Worthwhile or not, I’d prefer not to see the program expanded right now, as the feds presently guarantee too damn much of the “leveraged” part of the economy. Better might be the House Republicans’ proposal, to “allow small businesses to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income. This will immediately encourage investment and free up funds for small businesses to hire new employees and create jobs.”

  19. And larrys, you’re getting downright weird. There are lots of alternatives preferable to Porkulus — an infinity really, including doing nothing. It’s sort of like Eddie Izzard’s old “Cake Or Death” routine. Why should GTP, or anyone, have to specify the kind of cake preferred to death?

    And as for this

    It’s not like the crisis we’re suffering through now are self-inflicted wounds.

    your leaden sarcasm backfires. Feckless borrowing and government meddling is what got us into this. More borrowing and meddling seems contra-indicated, don’t you think?

  20. Oh, please. If you seriously believe that our problems were caused solely (or even primarily) by “feckless borrowing and government meddling”, then:

    A. There’s not much reason to continue this discussion, and

    B. If there are too many like-minded (using the term loosely) individuals, we’re in trouble for the long haul.

    Unbridled free-market economics is as dangerous as unfettered socialism. Either should function quite well, in theory, but they never manage to “get it right” in the real world we all live in.

  21. You need to check out the records larrys before you talk, Obama and the democrats forced banks to give loans to low income people that could not afford to repaid them. Matter of records fool!

  22. And that is what spawned this crisis? C’mon. Get real. That shouldn’t have caused a hiccup if everything else was functioning well.

  23. That shouldn’t have caused a hiccup if everything else was functioning well.

    You’re in deep, larry, real deep. It was when the underlying loans went bad that balance sheets suddenly turned toxic. What do you think started the big investment houses tumbling in the first place?

  24. Oh, my goodness! Every time I run into a person like larrys, I ask myself if they’re really that blind to what’s happening around them, or if–? It’s really NOT polite to finish that sentence!

    I can’t speak with authority on the whole whopping budget. But there are one or two things I haven’t had any way of avoiding knowing about, that fill me with terrible alarm. For instance, the funding that’s earmarked for nationalizing government healthcare.

    larrys–who knows–maybe you’re living at the bottom rung of the economic ladder and you’ve been taught to be jealous of people who have more than you. Maybe you’ve also gotten one government freebie after another, and you view government as the ultimate free goodie machine. Maybe you’re at the top and some idiot has impressed upon you a great need to feel guilty about being at the top. Still, whatever place you’ve found yourself, that’s no excuse for the blinkers you’re hanging onto for dear life. I’d say I live about one, maybe two rungs up from the bottom, but definitely not three. Educate yourself. Please.

    It is NOT in my best interest or in my family’s best interest that Obama’s socialist reforms go forward. I’m afraid that if they do, we’ll fall OFF the ladder and end up living in the street. I do not want that for my kids.

    I’m most especially not impressed with the idea of gov’t healthcare. We already have it, thanks to my husband’s kinda/sorta gov’t paid job. I wouldn’t accept gov’t help, except my husband is owed some kind of benefits for the work he does and politics is doing him out. Gov’t healthcare as we know it is inadequate, it has caused me/us more trouble than it has generally cured, the phone system/s are lousy, reasonable requests can and will be denied, and–if I have to share my doctor’s office with you and every other soul in America, I am not going to bother going there anymore for anything. Between budget constraints (which, with inflation are only going to get worse) and the shortages in medical supplies that are almost guaranteed to follow, going to the doctor is gonna be one big howling piece of futility if I can even squeeze through the door. If you’re not living down at this end of the economic ladder, please believe me, you’re not missing much by NOT having gov’t healthcare and you don’t want it, and you ought to tell CONGRESS that you don’t want it. That no one wants it. Not like this. Please. Tell them vehemently.

    Right now it looks like–SURPRISE!–you’re all going to get gov’t healthcare anyway (it’s one of those things funded by that huge “stimulus” package), and whoopee. Here we go. Bye-bye, dear doc. Hope we never meet again, ’cause it sure is gonna STINK to be you…

    But just so you know what the consequences of your choices are, larrys: there’s a dear old Canadian man I greatly respect. He’s a great humanitarian and brilliant medical doctor, though I doubt he’s anyone you’ve ever heard of. He never ever once, that I recall, stood on his dignity or demanded his share of the spotlight. Served overseas in a terribly primitive situation for years, got paid sometimes with, quite literally, coconuts, and he’s dying of cancer, and guess what? The Canadian hospital he ought to be dying in is full, no spare beds. He’s DYING, and he can’t get in to be cared for except at the E.R. His WIFE is nursing him alone around the clock. Do you hear me? No nursing staff to help him at home either.

    Mind you, he’s not so badly off that he couldn’t pay for healthcare if he could just get access to it. But he can’t.

    Does no one in Canada care about their neighbors? Are they all so lost to reason that they can’t see this poor, exhausted woman struggling and reach out to help her? Or are they so busy scrambling for their share of gov’t goodies that this couple’s tragic circumstance moves them not at all? Are they still blindly expecting government to DO something?

    And he’s a MEDICAL doctor, and so’s his son, and they’re both respected in their field and by everyone who knows them, and you’d think that medical practioners would care enough to at least take care of one of their own! But no. He’s a brilliant, kind, compassionate man who devoted his life to serving others, and he’s shut out of the hospital to die on his own. He’s NOT rich, larrys, but boy, isn’t Canadian Socialized Medicine sure sticking it to him!

    Do you feel good about that? ‘Cause aren’t those Canadians treating everybody equal and doing everything you profess to love? Frankly, it makes me SICK!

    That, larrys, is what is coming to America. Because you and millions of other, gullible people like you voted socialists into power, because you persist in supporting them. Socialists make all sorts of big, fuzzy nice promises, but when the rubber meets the road, (PSST!) they’re lying to you. They’re completely without scruples. They can’t afford to keep most of the promises they make, they’ll only keep the ones that give them iron-fisted control of YOUR life, and they’re lying. They know it and I know it, and the others here know it. Maybe you know it too, but don’t want to believe it. Poor you. And if you knowingly support this agenda, how thoroughly, nastily evil of you. May God take you in hand, please, and make you very, very repentant…

    I wonder how you’re going to feel when it’s you the system crowds out because you’re just another number, and sorry but we’re overloaded here, and did you really expect government to pick up the tab for all your needs and wants? Do you really expect gov’t to solve everything for you?

    I wonder how you will feel when a doctor sticks you with a lethal dose of whatever’s handy and as you’re dying says, “Sorry man, we need your bed…!” And that, larrys, is inevitably what’s coming down the pike. It’s what’s happening in Europe in the systems OBAMA wants to model ours after–

    Where will the “greedy insensitive” rich be then who your family can turn to, to donate to a fund to help your widow and kids pay the bills the gov’t ISN’T going to cover from your hospital stay…? ‘Cause you’re still gonna owe and I’m sorry to tell you, but I won’t have money to spare. Neither will anyone else. We’re all gonna poor and miserable together. What hellish kind of joy is that?

  25. lets see, do any of you people actually realize that WWII got us out of the depression. AS for companies like AIG if they to big to let fail they too big, they should have gone trhu bankrupcy like any opther failed business and be broken down to a manageable size and the get govt assistance in the form of low interest loans (like in natural disasters), but free wheeling throwing $$$ at the problem w no controls is pur irresponsibility. But dont Worry Iran will cause a big enough stir to cause another major war and our world economy can right itsself…sheesh what a bunch of idiots,,, me included

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